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 9/1/2007 9:24:24 PM
User is offlineScott
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It seems odd to me to be reaching out to my brothers and sisters in Christ without a purpose or a plan, however, that is what I am doing . While I am not isolated from Christians by any stretch of the imagination, I do sometimes feel alone (from consistent human support, not from divine support) when I look toward the deeper life. Elements of this "aloneness" are the result of the old nature that God is slowly sweeping away. Stated another way, my own fault. A strong, agressive personality takes a while to be molded into Christlikeness, with humility and servanthood. Nevertheless, God seems to be consistently reshaping me, bringing me to the confidence that we can indeed "have the mind of Christ". I am here to share with people who are on a similar journey, who can perhaps offer guidance or support. Honestly, I am uncomfortable not placing a topic for discussion or an agenda to discuss it, but that would seem to defeat the purpose. I was introduced to God for the first time by his words "I AM". I suppose I am here for no other reason to say that I am here too.

God Bless

Scott

 

 

 9/3/2007 9:35:53 AM
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Scot, I appreciate your candor. I am amazed at how lonely I can feel even though I am surrounded by people - many of them great friends. To be honest, the times when I often feel least lonely, is when I just sit for several hours with God - looking to be known by him. What I often find is that I don't even know myself very well, and that the person I sit before God as, and the person I interact with others as, is not even me - just a projection of what I wish I was.

I think God often takes me aside and allows me to just be me for a while to remind me that this journey is going to be a long one - but it isn't even a journey if I am trying to form the pretend me.

If you don't mind, this being your post and all, I would like to offer a suggestion that I hope won't go beyond the bounds of your purpose "without a purpose". The prayer project just posted (the link on the first page in the upper right box) is all about sitting with God as we really are, and being known in our "hidden heart."

Maybe the best thing we can do is to be open to who we are as we are being known by God? Thank you for your post. Blessings, kyle
 9/3/2007 4:40:43 PM
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Hello Kyle, and thank you for the reply and concern. You were up very late last night.

I reviewed the exercises you suggested. Again, thank you. I have been deelpy engaged in seeking to know myself as God knows me for several years. I am very thankful that the heart is not hidden to God and that he will reveal our hidden motives and heal them as we seek him and permit him to work. A righteousness that is founded on anything less has the danger of leading us to the "righteousness of the Scribes and Pharisees" I spent enough time there and am overjoyed to now be in communion with the Holy Spirit, under the guidance of scripture. Truthfully, this growth in God is the source of my sense of isolation. (from people, not from God.) As I write this I am fully aware that I have to be missing something, but I am not sure what it is. God is a God of community, and I am missing that. Also, I am a very logic/reason based person. I like to be able to defend my thoughts. Much of what I believe is indefensible from a secular point of view, though defensible from a scriptural, witness of the spirit, point of view. I know it is absurd, but I have a hard time stepping out of the worlds demand for "proof". (if anyone else struggles with this, Leslie Newbiggins book "Proper Confidence" is excellent)

So, I find myself in a reality, and God is reality, that does not submit to my usual approach to knowing and discussing. And that is  a partial source of frustration.

The second exercise you recommend, "Delighting in Other" actually seems like it would be profoundly beneficial to me. I am currently working to clarify the difference between a "servant heart" and a "subservient heart" in my mind. God has opened my understanding to how this misperception keeps me from connecting with others. In the interest of keeping this from becoming a ramble, I will stop here. I will follow the "delighting in others" exercise and let you know.

Thank you and God Bless

Scott

 9/3/2007 9:50:39 PM
User is offlinekcstrobel
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Scott, I actually live in Scotland, so it only seems late!

I think I understand a bit more what you mean. I am a bit of an academic, so I completely understand. Solitude tends to be less hard for me than community as well. I can find myself longing for the ivory tower, when God has me spending much of my time trying to integrate with his body - it tends to be very stretching and sometimes just plain frustrating!

I am glad you are looking through the discipline. You are right, that tends to be a very beneficial exercise. I pray that God uses it in your life.

Thanks again for your thoughts. As always, I appreciate your candor. In His grace, kyle

 9/25/2007 1:49:48 PM
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I am new to Metamorpha having come across the site from reading
Conversations Journal - wonderful collection of writing. I have been
on the path of transformation for a little over a year. It began with one
of Foster's books and then J.P. Moreland and Dallas Willard. I have
encountered two difficulties - I have not met anyone in my church who
has heard the words "spiritual formation". So, I feel somewhat isolated.
The second is that our leadership is decidedly "head first and heart
second", to use the words of John Mark Reynolds. I have been giving
my pastors articles to give them something to think about but I'm not
sure if they ever slow down to really consider it.

Well, I guess there is a third difficulty - I keep running across new
material and find that I am continually reading rather than being in
transformation. Every book I pick up has references to other books
or web sites and the web sites have articles and I keep buying more paper and fill files with very good stuff but really need to settle in on something. I am asking God to help me focus on one or two things at a time. I did order Metamorpha and want to start a small group using it.

On metamorpha.com is anyone responding to the comments? I posted a comment after doing one of the prayer exercizes a while back but
haven't seen anything.

Thanks, Kyle, for your work. I look forward to getting into your book.

Te deum laudamus,

Doug


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