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 10/27/2006 6:00:01 PM
User is offlineHenri
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Pastoral retreats
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I am wondering if there are any pastors or people who offer some kind of biblical apologetic for why pastors should take retreats, and just take care of themselves in general? I have heard people make reference to Paul, and the kind of life he led doesn't seem to be too "retreat oriented", and was wondering if there was something that I could point to to give to my pastor.
 10/29/2006 8:22:13 PM
User is offlinejulieann
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I would ask the pastor to consider Jesus as a model for pastoral behavior instead of Paul, not because Paul was not a good pastor, but because most of what we know of Paul as a pastor comes from his own letters (which are not intended to highlight Pauls use of retreat and spiritual discipline). Acts gives some additional insight, but the book is called Acts of all things! It is not intended really to give us a full picture of Paul as pastor. With Jesus on the other hand, we have record of his teaching, preaching, healing, and self care, i.e. prayer and rest. Another thought to considerif your pastor insists on using Paul as an example is this-- Paul likely had hours if not days of solitary walks through the turkish hills with no ipod or cell phone. Paul's entire ministry, really, was one long pilgrimage where all movement occured because of a deep openness to the Spirit. I think that Acts 16:10 is a great example of this. How in tune with the Spirit Paul must have had to be to discern his calling into Macedonia. Perhaps we would not need this talk of retreat if disciplines like pilgrimage and retreat were a natural part of all of our lives. Also, check the dates in between Pauls conversion and the begining of his ministry. I can't remember the exact amount of time he spent really soaking in his new found faith, but I remember it being a surprising number of years. I think this is a good example of self care as well.
 12/19/2007 8:36:28 PM
User is offlineGLO
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I have to agree with the previous post as well.  You can't read through the gospels and not see Jesus "stealing away" to be alone in prayer. (even though most of the time it seemed as though the crowds found Him anyway).  I think it's important to notice the fact that the disciples actually asked Jesus "teach us how to pray".  They didn't ask that because they had never seen anyone pray before, they were Jewish men, who probably grew up in the temple hearing Rabbi's and other people pray all the time, but something about the way Christ prayed was so different that it lead them to ask Him, "teach us how to pray".  I can't help but think that they asked Him this because of the many times they saw Him try to retreat away to pray, they watched and heard Him pray and were convicted that He knew how to pray more than anyone else they had ever encountered.  It's hard to not postulate that Jesus prayer life was intimately tied to His many times of retreat and solitude that we see Him seeking in the gospels.

peace,

glo

 12/31/2007 3:49:29 PM
User is offlinewemmons53
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Pastors are people too. They and their congregation have to realize this too. Jesus is an excellent model just as everyone has mentioned. Rest is a biblical topic and is so often ignored by busy people. We have to take care of ourselves.  It's like doing regular maintenance on a car to keep it in top running condition.  We need to maintain the physical body, our mind, and most of all our spirit. My wife and I have done regular retreats or "time outs as we call it".  It can be a few hours to a full week. Retreats help us renew and refresh ourselves. Take time to smell the roses. Learn to be still and know He is God.  It will always amaze you to see what God will do when you take the time to be still.

Remember, even God rested on the seventh day.

 1/6/2008 5:00:52 PM
User is offlinePastorKenB
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I heartily agree... and I strongly recommend taking time for personal retreats throughout the year.  I find that retreats are best on three levels...  Firstly, the daily time alone with Jesus is valuable (at whichever time of the day is good for you to step back and have your devotional moments), and then the time away with other pastors on retreat is of great value as well (there is nothing like being with other bretheren who have a deeper level of understanding for what you are going through,  and can surround you and pray for you)... I usually recommedn this sort of retreat (at least two to four days away) at least twice per year (although some of our bretheren get away on a quarterly basis)...then there is the most important retreat of all... Family Vacation.

I also find that when I miss out on the chance for a personal retreat, my family suffers as does my ministry and emotional and spiritual wellbeing suffers.

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